Mersault's Indifference

Charmaine' || 最想环游的世界 says: (1:00:29 AM)
you dont get the feeling that he's really engaging with them

i think marie loved him and wanted to get married, but to him it didn't matter either way

" that evening, marie came round for me and asked me if i wanted to marry her. i said i didn't mind and we could do if she wanted to. she then wanted to know if i loved her. i replied as i had done once already, that it didn't mean anything but that i probably didnt."

charm says: (1:03:04 AM)
=\
okay. i need to find that book

+Charmaine' || 最想环游的世界 says: (1:03:45 AM)
"why marry me then?" she said. i explained to her that it really didn't matter and that if she wanted to, we could get married. anyway, she was the one who was asking me and I was simply saying yes. she then remarked that marriage was a serious matter. i said, 'no.'
she didn't say anything for a moment and looked at me in silence. then she spoke. she just wanted to know if i'd have accepted the same proposal if it had come from another woman, with whom i had a similar relationship. i said, 'naturally.' "

to me this man is strange, he feels like he has no emotion at all

charm says: (1:05:52 AM)
not a bad thing, perhaps.

+Charmaine' || 最想环游的世界 says: (1:05:58 AM)
a few of the characters (especially the religious ones, the madly religious ones) get angry at him because of this
yeah...and the truth is, he is just being honest with them
it truly doesn't matter to him whether he marries marie, or someone else, or even to marry at all
and at the end when he knows he is heading for the guillotine, he says:

charm says: (1:07:11 AM)
does all these happen before he kills the man>
(the unfeelingness)

+Charmaine' || 最想环游的世界 says: (1:07:42 AM)
"For the final consummation and for me to feel less lonely, my last wish was that there should be a crowd of spectators at my execution and that they should greet me with cries of hatred."

yes

he is always like that, doesn't talk much

charm says: (1:08:48 AM)
hm
what do you think

+Charmaine' || 最想环游的世界 says: (1:09:09 AM)
to him living is ..."you ended up getting used to everything"
at first he just seems like an unfeeling man
but he lives by what he can see, feel...what he can perceive through his senses
which is...logical
but there is no meaning to this logic
why, then, exist, if only to die?
would it really matter when and how? if death was indeed the end?

charm says: (1:11:13 AM)
i was just wondering the same thing, today
haha
why exist?
but i do not believe love is the answer.
it must not be - for then so many of us would have meaningless lives.

+Charmaine' || 最想环游的世界 says: (1:11:52 AM)
" as if a familiar journey under a summer sky could as easily end in prison as in innocent sleep"

i think so, because there are several kinds of love
whether superficial or not

disregarding religion entirely
you could live for somebody else, whether you loved them as a friend, family, or romantically
you could live for the love of material things and the sake of pride, being more so of something than others, turning life into a sort of competition that whoever has the most wins
and yet the material kind of pursuit...when they reach that point when they are satisfied that they are safely more wealthy than others, they wonder what then?

charm says: (1:14:28 AM)
just like living for someone else
if one day they should be wrested from you, leave you
or if you had to go far away

+Charmaine' || 最想环游的世界 says: (1:14:44 AM)
(but for the most of their lives, they had a sort of purpose...a self made one)

charm says: (1:14:51 AM)
then our lives would lose all meaning.

+Charmaine' || 最想环游的世界 says: (1:15:03 AM)
but lives consist of more people than that..
even a dog or a cat would suffice..if tey were the kind
but it's true
when those things end, life does lose all meaning
for me i have my faith
so

charm says: (1:16:46 AM)
should we all be allowed to find our own little meanings?

+Charmaine' || 最想环游的世界 says: (1:16:48 AM)
to an aethist life is what you make of it
yes

charm says: (1:17:01 AM)
relativism cheapens everything

+Charmaine' || 最想环游的世界 says: (1:17:04 AM)
haha!
it can
well, this is a world of free will
the only limitations are that of your own ambition and nature
unless you choose otherwise

charm says: (1:18:07 AM)
haha
sounds like you got it all sussed out (:
why are you depressed then

+Charmaine' || 最想环游的世界 says: (1:18:22 AM)
haha
umm. i am depressed because my world is tiny, and the sameness is driving me insane
this conversation is like a breath of fresh air
i want to be involved in something i want, what really drives me...

charm says: (1:19:27 AM)
now the hard part is finding out what that is
isnt it

+Charmaine' || 最想环游的世界 says: (1:19:31 AM)
rather than admin work
haha

charm says: (1:19:34 AM)
or finding a way to get there.

+Charmaine' || 最想环游的世界 says: (1:19:35 AM)
i know what it ISNT
thats a start!
haha
well

charm says: (1:19:44 AM)
well. half the battle won!

+Charmaine' || 最想环游的世界 says: (1:19:48 AM)
yes!
and no ;p
it can be quite vague

charm says: (1:20:07 AM)
sigh, i know.
i am looking for something transcendental, permanant, inspiring and above all, rescuing.

+Charmaine' || 最想环游的世界 says: (1:21:36 AM)
transcendental?

charm says: (1:22:30 AM)
haha. something above all these tiny-ness, meaninglessness and superficiality